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Interview with Kim Bookout from Starting Over
Did you watch Starting Over before you were
cast?
Kim Bookout-I did.
Now that your episodes have stopped airing do you
still watch the show?
Kim Bookout-I do.
Was there ever a time when you wanted to leave the
house?
Kim Bookout-Oh yeah,
two times. The first time was when my kids came to the
house. I was really upset because I felt like my housemates
were pretty rude to my children with the exception of
Towanda. Towanda was the only one nice to my kids. Some
of them wouldn't even look at them or talk to them.
It was rude. Then Iyanla did that whole as Deborah would
say "put me on front street."
I don't know if you remember this but when my kids
were there and Sommer accused me of stealing make-up
at that same group meeting Iyanla had me on the flat
screen asking for a reprieve from not wearing the make-up,
they didn't show the whole tape. Between that and Sommer
accusing me of stealing the make-up and all of this
on the heels of Deborah leaving and Sommer coming it
was really a hard time. It was something I didn't want
to deal with. Obviously, something is wrong with Sommer.
Why would I steal her cheap Cover Girl crap when I have
my own make-up?
I feel that she lied. When you know for sure that you
haven't done something and someone accuses you it's
really upsetting. And then she was going through my
stuff and Rhonda and Dr. Stan were like, "Why were
you going through Kim's things?" I think with Sommer
I had been telling her I didn't trust her. She would
go tell Josie stuff about Jennifer and then tell Jennifer
stuff about Josie and asked if I felt that was two faced
and I said yes. Towanda and I both told her that was
like playing both sides of the fence and I believe in
loyalty and we believe in loyalty, and by me saying
I didn't trust her pissed her off and she accused me.
Yeah I personally think she handled it wrong. You
all were roommates she could have come to you one on
one and asked you about it.
Kim Bookout-You
saw how small the bathroom was. I thought we had worked
everything out that it was a mix-up then we found my
makeup was in her bag.
The episode when you all were sitting on the bed
talking.
Kim Bookout-Right.
It was two eye shadows in her bag so we concluded when
my daughters were in town stuff could have got mixed
up. I come home thinking we worked it out and I see
where she says I was pathological liar, that really
upset me as you can imagine.
What are some of your favorite TV shows?
Kim Bookout-I love
Will & Grace and I love The Apprentice.
Oprah. Oprah is my all time favorite
show in the world forever.
What type of music do you listen to?
Kim Bookout- Well
I love Alicia Keys and Usher. He is like my favorite.
And Towanda.
The way that Starting Over is edited, it appears
that you all only leave the house with life coaches
or for planned events. Did you all ever just go out
on your own to the store or to the hair salon?
Kim Bookout- Well
everything had to be okay'd. We couldn't go anywhere
unless they knew and we only had off 2 hours on Sunday
when we were able to go wherever we wanted.
Was it difficult getting used to having the cameras
around all of the time?
Kim Bookout-Yeah
that's weird. I found myself laughing. You just couldn't
stop. It's like when you wake up there is a camera in
your face. It took about 2 weeks and then you are so
enthralled in your own personal crap that after awhile
a hard to believe you get used to it.
How are you dealing with your newfound celebrity?
Kim Bookout-Oh it's
crazy. Unbelievable. I can't believe how many people
have come up to me and told me that they have seen me
and I inspired them. It has been crazy. You know you
are going to be on TV, but when you are there you are
so caught up in the process that you don't think I am
going to be recognized. It's been bizarre. I'm surprised.
What are your career plans for 2005?
Kim Bookout-Well
that's
a hard question. I really don't know what I want to
do now. I would like to work on a soap opera, that would
be so cool. I love One Life To Live and Passions.
I would love to do something like that. Also, one of
the things I have been thinking about is a support group
for women coming off of the show.
When you come off of the show it's really difficult.
I don't think people realize that you have all of this
support and you are really focused on yourself everyday
and you don't know what's going to happen. You don't
find out until that day or the night before, so life
is planned and all of a sudden there is no support.
So I would love to help other women who come off of
the show. I could like to act as a liaison between the
house and the women so that we can put a network together
and help each other support each other.
If you were asked to participate in a Starting
Over refresher course, like a 3 week session to
reinforce your goals would you go back to the house?
Kim Bookout-Yes,
I would. Absolutely. I think the show is really about
women empowering themselves and in doing that you help
other women and so I think that it's a very worth while
show because of that.
I went into it thinking if I could help one person
it would really be worth it. Though the process was
really one of the most difficult things I have done,
I'm glad and would do it again even under the circumstances
that I was in.
Iyanla seemed intimidating at times, did she ever
make you nervous?
Kim Bookout-Oh yes.
She made me very nervous every time. I would get butterflies.
Iyanla can look in your eyes and see your soul. She
is an amazing and incredible woman. I feel so blessed
and fortunate to have had her as my life coach. I truly
believe it was meant to be. Iyanla is spiritual and
helped me to take my faith to a deeper level. I don't
know if you remember the episode she prayed for me.
It was amazing how that worked. I loved the whole sisterhood.
It's so incredible.
Towanda and I are the best of friends and we talk two
or three times a day and have remained close. When you
go through that kind of process, you become close. We
just became friends instantly when we looked into each
others eyes. She and I are the best of friends.
You mentioned in your chat that you were a dental
hygenist for 17 years. That is quite an interesting
career, how did you get used to looking in peoples mouths
every day, was it weird at first?
Kim Bookout-No,
it really wasn't. I have always been fascinated with
peoples teeth since an early age. I check out smiles.
I really, really loved it. I have just done it for so
many years I'm interested in doing something else. Burned
out.
Have you bought a new Louis yet?
Kim Bookout-I can't
believe how much fuss was made over the purse. It's
just a purse get over it people. I think what people
don't understand Dorrie is when you wake up there is
a schedule where you are to go but they don't say why
or who so you have to take your purse in case you need
money for a taxi or anything. I think they just zoned
in on my purse because it was a Louis Vuitton. Nobody
knows if it's real or fake so I will just leave it a
mystery.
Do you ever shop online?
Kim Bookout-You
know I shopped a little online, but I think I shopped
on Ebay mainly. I'll have to do that more now that I
am on the computer more.
How do you think so much of the focus with your
story surrounded the whole "Kim has money"
thing. I don't remember issues with money having anything
to do with your steps?
Kim Bookout-Well
you know that really did bother me. I have to admit
because here is the thing. I feel like I have never
put money or material things in front of other peoples
needs and there were other people in the house with
just as nice of things. It was upsetting to me that
everyone put so much focus on what I had materially.
I found myself defending myself all the time and I think
that was really difficult for me. I have always volunteered
and given away money. For me it was really hard.
Colorado is a beautiful state and I feel that in
the 90's Colorado got a bad rap for a few high profile
incidents like the Jon Benet Ramsey case and Columbine,
do you think the image of Colorado has bounced back?
Kim Bookout- Don't
forget Kobe. I think that every state has ya know unfortunately
bad things that happen. One thing that I think has helped
is that the state has pulled together in all three of
these incidents and coming together has made the people
more bonded. People are nice. I think it helped when
Iyanla and Jennifer came to Colorado to have the fierce
conversation I felt a lot safer being here and was glad
that we came.
I need some advice. Your steps of mending past relationships
inspired me.
I have a friend who I have known for 20 years who initially
stopped speaking to me when I got married because she
felt we were supposed to wait and get married at the
same time.
Kim Bookout-Really?
Then in recent years she has told mutual friends
that I think I'm all that because I write books. I have
sent her numerous letters with no response. I even called
on the phone and she pretended it wasn't her. Is there
a time I should stop reaching out or should I keep pursuing
the friendship?
Kim Bookout-Are
you kidding? Really? She pretended it wasn't her on
the phone.
Yes, I have known her 20 years and she pretended
that it wasn't her on the phone like I don't know her
voice.
Kim Bookout-You
know what my advice would be to you. You have to continue
to reach out and love her because this is more about
you not so much about her. What I have found is that
you can't have joy when you have busted relationships.
If you continue to love her unconditionally, I just
believe that someday she will come around. I believe
that. I think if you harbor anger, having Iyana made
me realize if you are angry or harbor resentment people
can pick that up.
It's best to come to her with clean and clear communications
and with pure intentions. If you just keep doing it
you want to you love her. If you continue that level
of love it will come back. I have experienced that myself
and believe that.
I took it upon myself to apologize even though I
feel in my heart I didn't do anything wrong. In the
letter I said, I am sorry for anything I might have
done to upset you the last time we spoke or saw each
other. I don't know if it's jealousy or what.
Kim Bookout-It's
possible. Imagine yourself, great career, husband, two
kids. It is possible that she may harbor some kind of
jealousy. I've learned that if that's true she's picking
that up. I've learned this. It is a hard thing to hear.
I remember saying this to someone in the house how in
the world people hold things like that against you,
maybe its because you some how portrayed yourself a
certain way.
Okay for those who don't watch SO, I'm pretty
sure what Kim meant is something in my personality,
the way that I act toward my friend, I might unknowingly
be doing something to make her jealous, and this might
be true. When we talk I don't have to mention my latest
book, accomplishments or interviews I've landed-Dorrie
It's complicated. There is a bit of a role reversal.
Growing up she is the one that had everything. It's
complicated.
I think you're a fabulous example of a woman in
her 40's enjoying her life and being a wife and a mother.
I really enjoyed watching you on the show.
Kim Bookout-Thanks,
that means a lot. I appreciate it.
Any last comments?
Kim Bookout-I feel
really lucky that I was a part of Starting Over
and the process and hope that in the future I can reach
out to other women pay it forward each woman it will
all be worth it. I don't know if you heard when I came
into the house I didn't have many female friends. I've
realized too often too many women instead of whether
it's jealousy or men or whatever the issue, women need
to stick together and help support each other and be
there and love each other and make the world a better
place to live. I've developed close relationships and
can help women.
You can visit Kim Bookout on the
web at her official website http://www.kimbookout.com.
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